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hi bird friends!...i know these r easy for u, but i'm still having trouble - crow or raven?...1) the three in the tree...2) the one scaling a wall?...DSC00008.thumb.jpg.ca3dff38f761373f5b73f9f4c5f71440.jpgDSC06128.thumb.jpg.be72acf020474943b2cda757c40b0609.jpgthanks, gregg...

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sorry, i forgot... both where taken in the summer, around may-june - both were taken in West Hollywood, CA, on the famous Sunset Blvd...

the 3 birds in the tree, had just had a 30 minute fight with a family of 3 hawks, which i photographed - and appeared to be over, when the Hawks left the area...i waited 15 minutes, then these birds dispersed...

the bird scaling the wall was eating garbage off the street, which had just held the LA Marathon, and the thousands of runners and watchers had left a lot of garbage for it to eat...it would pick something off the road, fly up to the wall to eat it, then repeat...

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The first photo are ravens.  Long narrow wings, long head, heavy bill

Less certain about the second photo but looking a bit more crow-ish.

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