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Hairy or Downy Woodpecker


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I dont' think I'll ever be able to tell the difference.  Most in my area are Downy.  Like I am pretty sure this is

Bird 1 https://www.flickr.com/photos/jacobmccandles/32277440408

I know a Hairy Woodpecker is supposed to have a longer bill.  This one look longer but it probably just the angle or something.

Bird 2 -https://www.flickr.com/photos/jacobmccandles/44331789580

Is is a Downy also?  Richmond, VA on Dec 2, 2018  Sometime, I'd like to get a picture of a Hairy identified to add to my bird species count.

Thanks,

Scott H.

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