pictaker Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 (edited) I keep goin from red tail to red shoulder in my mind,can anyone nail it down for me...if I had a gun to my head I would call it a red tail, but then I look at those brown eyes... Edited December 22, 2022 by pictaker 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avery Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 I’d say RSHA by those thicker tail bands 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Fingers Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Looks like a Red Shoulder to me. Look at these markings on the wing, which are supposed to be a field mark on ALL Red Shoulders. However I’m not too experienced with raptors. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Fingers Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Great photo by the way! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiscalus quiscula Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Agree, Red-shouldered with those "pale icicles". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds are cool Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 RSHA. Great photo! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bird Nuts Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 On 12/22/2022 at 1:56 PM, Snake Fingers said: Looks like a Red Shoulder to me. Look at these markings on the wing, which are supposed to be a field mark on ALL Red Shoulders. However I’m not too experienced with raptors. Not quite. The distinctive pale barring or "icicles" on a Red-shouldered are on the secondaries. I agree that this is a Red-shouldered though. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Fingers Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 46 minutes ago, The Bird Nuts said: Not quite. The distinctive pale barring or "icicles" on a Red-shouldered are on the secondaries. I agree that this is a Red-shouldered though. Huh, good to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiscalus quiscula Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 2 hours ago, The Bird Nuts said: Not quite. The distinctive pale barring or "icicles" on a Red-shouldered are on the secondaries. I agree that this is a Red-shouldered though. Oh of course, should have remembered that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Spencer Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 14 hours ago, The Bird Nuts said: Not quite. The distinctive pale barring or "icicles" on a Red-shouldered are on the secondaries. Thank you. This is the first time I recall seeing these 'icicles' actually marked. I've also misunderstood it to be the white markings on the primaries. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Fingers Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Charlie Spencer said: Thank you. This is the first time I recall seeing these 'icicles' actually marked. I've also misunderstood it to be the white markings on the primaries. I just found out about them for this id… this is confusing me. I trust The Bird Nuts more than this guide, but are they talking about a different field mark than the “icicles”? Edited December 24, 2022 by Snake Fingers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avery Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Snake Fingers said: I just found out about them for this id… this is confusing me. I trust The Bird Nuts more than this guide, but are they talking about a different field mark than the “icicles”? That refers to the birds windows, only really viewed in flight. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Fingers Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Avery said: That refers to the birds windows, only really viewed in flight. Huh good to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Spencer Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 (edited) @Snake Fingers, translucent 'commas' or 'windows'. Red-shouldered, August 2020, Lexington Co, central SC. My photo. Edited December 24, 2022 by Charlie Spencer 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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