smittyone@cox.net Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Not an identification question. More of a "correct" reporting question. When looking to see if there was a separate 4 letter Alpha code for Harlan's Red-tailed Hawk, I discovered HRLH for Harlan's Hawk. Didn't know they'd been officially separated from RTHAs. Up till now, I've been calling them Harlan's Red-tailed Hawk (RTHA). Should i start calling them Harlan's Hawk (HRLH) from now on? I know Eastern, Western, RTHAs etc. don't have their own distinct Alpha codes. Why wouldn't Krider's Red-tailed Hawk have their own Alpha code? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 I’m not sure why/why not certain ones have banding codes, however Harlan’s is still a subspecies of Red-tailed Hawk, they have snot been split. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Friedman Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Some people think Harlan's is a separate species, and I suppose some of them wanted a four-letter code for it, but as @IKLlandsaid, the AOS still considers it a subspecies of the Red-tail. Here are the recent proposal to the AOS to list it as a separate species and the rebuttal. I don't think anyone thinks Krider's is a separate species. (In fact, some people think it's not a subspecies, just a color morph.) That may be why it doesn't have a four-letter code. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiscalus quiscula Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 I think it has a code so that banders can specify which subspecies if it's determinable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smittyone@cox.net Posted January 1 Author Share Posted January 1 If I understand correctly, since Harlan's has not been "officially" recognized as it's own species, the correct way to list it would be Harlan's Red-tailed Hawk (RTHA)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiscalus quiscula Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 11 minutes ago, smittyone@cox.net said: If I understand correctly, since Harlan's has not been "officially" recognized as it's own species, the correct way to list it would be Harlan's Red-tailed Hawk (RTHA)? I suppose so, or Red-tailed Hawk (Harlan's). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Friedman Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 2 hours ago, Quiscalus quiscula said: I think it has a code so that banders can specify which subspecies if it's determinable. The Patuxent Wildlife Research Center says they only do this if the subspecies was formerly recognized as a species. "The taxa for which we have included formerly recognized species are: Townsend's Shearwater, Green-winged Teal, Snow Goose, Canada Goose, Brant, Tundra Swan, Great Blue Heron, Red-tailed Hawk, Northern Flicker, Savannah Sparrow, Seaside Sparrow, White-crowned Sparrow, Dark-eyed Junco, Yellow-rumped Warbler, and Palm Warbler." 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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