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I tried to edit my original post, but couldn't for some reason, to include the following info: 

This bird was photographed in a small urban park on the west side of Manhattan, New York City, near the Hudson River. Common Grackle is common in Manhattan, but Boat-tailed Grackle is very rare (less than 10 records on eBird ever for Manhattan). However, there is an established pattern of infrequent vagrancy of this species north along the Hudson River in Manhattan (I personally observed three together in this context) north to Westchester. Boat-tailed Grackle does occur as a regular breeder along the coastal marshes of New York City (where it is not uncommon), but this is some miles from Manhattan.

Looking at this bird again, I just can't imagine a Common Grackle showing such a solid blue iridescence, and I am inclined to believe that it is a Boat-tailed Grackle despite the rarity.

I'd appreciate it if you reported it as misidentified if you agree that it is a Boat-tailed. I did so weeks ago, but it obviously hasn't been changed. I know the Manhattan eBird reviewer(s) probably has/have a lot of things to sift through, so maybe they didn't get to it yet, or maybe they believe it is a Common Grackle, or perhaps they just skimmed it over and dismissed the idea based on the likelihood (not likely I think).

I'd still love to hear others' thoughts on this bird. 

2 hours ago, jcarscadden said:

those eyes...would not expect them to be as piercing yellow on a boat tail  and i do have some pics of dark common

jcarscadden, piercing yellow eyes are certainly typical of Atlantic coast Boat-tailed Grackles (see the last and second-to-last photos here: https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Boat-tailed_Grackle/media-browser/67363911 ). If you have photos of Common Grackles that you think look very similar to this bird, I'd love to see them!

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12 hours ago, adrian said:

I tried to edit my original post, but couldn't for some reason, to include the following info: 

This bird was photographed in a small urban park on the west side of Manhattan, New York City, near the Hudson River. Common Grackle is common in Manhattan, but Boat-tailed Grackle is very rare (less than 10 records on eBird ever for Manhattan). However, there is an established pattern of infrequent vagrancy of this species north along the Hudson River in Manhattan (I personally observed three together in this context) north to Westchester. Boat-tailed Grackle does occur as a regular breeder along the coastal marshes of New York City (where it is not uncommon), but this is some miles from Manhattan.

Looking at this bird again, I just can't imagine a Common Grackle showing such a solid blue iridescence, and I am inclined to believe that it is a Boat-tailed Grackle despite the rarity.

I'd appreciate it if you reported it as misidentified if you agree that it is a Boat-tailed. I did so weeks ago, but it obviously hasn't been changed. I know the Manhattan eBird reviewer(s) probably has/have a lot of things to sift through, so maybe they didn't get to it yet, or maybe they believe it is a Common Grackle, or perhaps they just skimmed it over and dismissed the idea based on the likelihood (not likely I think).

I'd still love to hear others' thoughts on this bird. 

jcarscadden, piercing yellow eyes are certainly typical of Atlantic coast Boat-tailed Grackles (see the last and second-to-last photos here: https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Boat-tailed_Grackle/media-browser/67363911 ). If you have photos of Common Grackles that you think look very similar to this bird, I'd love to see them!

It's certainly a male torreyi (Atlantic subspecies) Boat-tailed. I flagged it. 

Sometimes what happens with flagged reports is that a reviewer will send an email out to the observer about the mistake they made, but they might not always reply back (or it could take awhile) therefore leaving it on the checklist as it is here.

However, now that it's definitely flagged, the record is out of the database.

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