MedicineMan4040 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 New here and posting per a suggestion from a friend on Flickr. Trying to determine a specific hawk. IMaged two weeks ago at Bosque del Apache New Mexico USA. Hoping these images can help with the ID. Help ID Please by MedicineMan4040, on Flickr Help ID Please by MedicineMan4040, on Flickr Help ID Please by MedicineMan4040, on Flickr I know Red-tailed Hawks, and feed two in my backyard daily....surely this is a Red-tailed variant and I've heard many suggestions including a Harlan's Hawk, immature Ferruginous, etc. Your thoughts appreciated. Robert 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 You actually have two different birds here. The first and third photos are one bird (or maybe two very similar birds), and the middle photo is another which is clearly much paler overall, especially on the head and undersides. That middle bird is a juvenile Ferruginous Hawk. The white panel formed by the white bases to the primary flight feathers is diagnostic for this species, as is the extended yellow gape and white base to the tail. The brown and white plumage as a whole indicates that it is a juvenile. The other bird(s) is a dark-morph Red-tailed Hawk, judging mainly by structure (stocky hawk with relatively short, broad wings, good-sized head with large bill). I don't know how to distinguish between a Harlan's or a dark-morph calurus or alascensis. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedicineMan4040 Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 Adrian thank you so much!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedicineMan4040 Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 The bird gurus on Flickr are saying the bird in images 1 and 3 is a Harlan's Hawk. Anyone else agree? Honestly I love all hawks! So the exact ID is just for fun and curiosity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Spencer Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 @MedicineMan4040, magnificent photos! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedicineMan4040 Posted December 20, 2018 Author Share Posted December 20, 2018 Thank for the kind words. The better-half and I love imaging raptors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Friedman Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 You might also get some interesting comments on that bird on the Facebook Raptor ID page, if you do Facebook. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 iBird Photo Sleuth used its AI and neural network to come to the same decisions as adrian, #1 and #3 are Red-tailed Hawks, while #2 is a Ferruginous Hawk. We actually have very similar photos in iBird Pro species accounts. I attached the FEHA photos from the app. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedicineMan4040 Posted December 24, 2018 Author Share Posted December 24, 2018 Wonderful info! Thanks so much. I do with iBird Photo Sleuth was available for Android, yep I'm one of those ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedicineMan4040 Posted December 24, 2018 Author Share Posted December 24, 2018 Wonderful info! Thanks so much. I do wish iBird Photo Sleuth was available for Android, yep I'm one of those. I did find i-Bird Pro for Android, will it also analyze a picture I've taken like Photo Sleuth??? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamRHead Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 4 hours ago, MedicineMan4040 said: I did find i-Bird Pro for Android, will it also analyze a picture I've taken like Photo Sleuth??? ? I have iBird Pro for Andoid (I'm one of those, too ). No, it does not analyze photos. I believe that is exclusive to Photo Sleuth, which in the future should be available for Android. If I'm not mistaken it will come as an optional add-on for the iBird Pro app. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedicineMan4040 Posted December 24, 2018 Author Share Posted December 24, 2018 Thanks HamRHead. I'll check on it from time to time and purchase when it has the 'sleuth' ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Spencer Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 6 hours ago, HamRHead said: ... which in the future should be available for Android. Yeah, that's right, ignore all us Luddites who keep using our Windows desktops. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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