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1 minute ago, Peromyscus said:

It's a Brown-headed Cowbird female.

Cool - I already took credit for the lifer, as I saw the bird through a scope, and a good birder told me what it was.  At least I have a photo - I didn't want to add another non-photo lifer to my list.

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34 minutes ago, IKLland said:

For me it’s range and the whitish throat in the first photo. 

Range isn’t an issue. Loxahatchee isn’t far from Semi-Chi Rice Mill, where they are reliable. 
 

Note the slim bill, pale supercilium, and overall slender structure. A whitish throat isn’t unusual for a Shiny. 
 

For reference this was taken at Semi-Chi a few days ago. 
 

https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/527051221

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28 minutes ago, blackburnian said:

@dragon49 where was this exactly? 

This was at the Semi-Chi Rice Mill.  I now know with 100% certainty that it is either a Brown-headed Cowbird or a Shiny Cowbird.  At the time, I was with a bunch of very experience birders, and they all saw both species in the same structure, but I only saw and photographed one.  I do remember one of them told me that the Brown-headed Cowbird was female.  I don't remember any discussion about the sex of the other.  I don't have contact info for any of the other parties, but I can get it.  If any of them tell me that the Shiny Cowbird was male, then I'm going to consider this a Brown-headed Cowbird.  

In any event, I reached out to one of our reviewers and am awaiting his answer.  I'll pass it on here.

 

 

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11 minutes ago, blackburnian said:

Given the location and aforementioned field marks, I would call this a Shiny. 

I'm still waiting to hear from the reviewer, but I'm sticking to Brown-headed Cowbird for now.  I found the checklist for one of the other birders, and they posted a picture of a male (all black) Shiny Cowbird, and since one of them mentioned the Brown-headed Blackbird was female, this is probably it.  The flaw in the logic is that maybe this was a second (female) Shiny Cowbird that only I saw.  The problem with that argument is that these folks are all much better birders than I, and they had a scope on the same area I was looking at, so, It's a weak argument.

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18 minutes ago, dragon49 said:

I'm still waiting to hear from the reviewer, but I'm sticking to Brown-headed Cowbird for now.  I found the checklist for one of the other birders, and they posted a picture of a male (all black) Shiny Cowbird, and since one of them mentioned the Brown-headed Blackbird was female, this is probably it.  The flaw in the logic is that maybe this was a second (female) Shiny Cowbird that only I saw.  The problem with that argument is that these folks are all much better birders than I, and they had a scope on the same area I was looking at, so, It's a weak argument.

Generally speaking, it think it’s wiser to focus on the actual field marks rather than basing your ID on comments made in the field. I’m not saying those people are wrong, just that it’s better to judge the photos you got on their own merits. 

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