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Red-tailed Hawk? Savannah NY 2/24/23


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Just now, Avery said:

@Birds are coolThere are maybe 2 confirmed reports of RSHA from that area so far this year. We would need to see some field marks to be sure. 
This looks fine for a Red-tailed to me, but I’d like to see any other photos that@MWMhas to be sure. 

I did not realize it was that rare. I am looking at the bird on the computer and it still looks like a RSHA to me, but I could be wrong. Can you explain to me why this looks like a RTHA to you? 

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Red-shouldered aren't exceptionally rare around here, usually see them in migration, which seems to be starting here. Just picked up N. Shoveler & Sandhill Crane (first of the year) a mile or 2 from this raptor. Couldn't get any better shots - snowing too hard, but here is the best I got.

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4 minutes ago, MWM said:

Red-shouldered aren't exceptionally rare around here, usually see them in migration, which seems to be starting here. Just picked up N. Shoveler & Sandhill Crane (first of the year) a mile or 2 from this raptor. Couldn't get any better shots - snowing too hard, but here is the best I got.

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I am sure this is a RSHA.

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1 hour ago, Avery said:

@Birds are cool @IKLland I feel like with the detail we can see, from this angle we would certainly see some barring in the secondaries. Also, the tail seems too short to me.

What are you seeing that points to RSHA?

For me it’s mainly GISS. However, the facial pattern looks more like a RSHA to me, but I can’t explain that part too well.

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