Connor Cochrane Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Chihuahuan Meadowlark Western Flycatcher American Goshawk 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelLong Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Western Flycatcher, never seen the other two 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnd Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 6 hours ago, Charlie Spencer said: . (There's a mystery theme as to what these three have in common  )  The mystery is that l have not seen any of these three birds 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 7 hours ago, Charlie Spencer said: There's a mystery theme as to what these three have in common They’re all three species that have recently been merged or spit from two or more different species. Western Flycatcher was Pacific Slope and Cordilleran Flycatchers, Chihuahuan Meadowlark was Eastern Meadowlark subspecies stuff, and American goshawk was made a species from a bunch of subspecies of northern goshawk. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 I only have the flycatcher 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted August 13 Author Share Posted August 13 7 hours ago, Charlie Spencer said: (There's a mystery theme as to what these three have in common  )  Spoiler warning! Quote      They were all just split/lumped and named.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilpa Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Only the formerly Pacific-slope Flycatcher. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigOly Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 I have photos of 47 different kinds of flycatchers but are you saying the Eastern Meadowlark is now a  Chihuahuan Meadowlark? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 14 minutes ago, BigOly said: I have photos of 47 different kinds of flycatchers but are you saying the Eastern Meadowlark is now a  Chihuahuan Meadowlark? The southwest subspecies of eastern has been split to its own species. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigOly Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 12 minutes ago, IKLland said: The southwest subspecies of eastern has been split to its own species. This photo I took in south Texas. Any way to tell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLecy Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 13 minutes ago, BigOly said: This photo I took in south Texas. Any way to tell? https://ebird.org/map/lilmea2?neg=true&env.minX=&env.minY=&env.maxX=&env.maxY=&zh=false&gp=false&ev=Z&excludeExX=false&excludeExAll=false&mr=1-12&bmo=1&emo=12&yr=all&byr=1900&eyr=2023 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacMe Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 None for me. Well, I do have an Eastern Meadowlark that I took around CC, Texas which may be the chihuahua meadowlark now?? Is there a range map available? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitch58 Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Terrible shot of the only Am. Goshawk (juvie) I've seen. No on the other two . 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clip Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 22 hours ago, Charlie Spencer said: Chihuahuan isn't Eastern or Western, so photos of those birds aren't CHME (unless you have photos of Easterns that were take in what's now Chihuahuan range, maybe?) Until next year or the year after when they make them E & W again. Just like Pacific and Cordilleran were one once upon a time. Then two and now apparently one again. Almost seems like they go out their way to make things complicated. My aim is to have fun you guys can have the minutia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinHood Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 9 hours ago, MacMe said: Well, I do have an Eastern Meadowlark that I took around CC, Texas which may be the chihuahua meadowlark now?? You appear to be out of range (unless your bird has four white outer tail feathers rather than three 🙂). The range map is posted immediately before your post. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Spencer Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 13 hours ago, Johnd said: The mystery is that l have not seen any of these three birds Something that you and I have in common! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Friedman Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 On 8/13/2023 at 5:50 PM, IKLland said: The southwest subspecies of eastern has been split to its own species. That subspecies used to be called Lilian's Meadowlark.  On 8/13/2023 at 4:06 PM, IKLland said: They’re all three species that have recently been merged or spit from two or more different species. Western Flycatcher was Pacific Slope and Cordilleran Flycatchers, Chihuahuan Meadowlark was Eastern Meadowlark subspecies stuff, and American goshawk was made a species from a bunch of subspecies of northern goshawk. A bunch of subspecies with an important geographical feature in common, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Friedman Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Former Cordilleran with some missing belly feathers: Â Juvenile: 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan B Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Western Flycatcher American Goshawk 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiscalus quiscula Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 None of these, but I do have a pretty backlit photo of Eurasian Goshawk. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Spencer Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 Good morning, Whatbirders! It looks like only @Connor Cochrane had all three of last week's split / lumped species. We're in the depths of August, so hopefully this week's bird will cool everyone down a bit! Snow Goose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinHood Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 Uncommon here and always distant - dark morph. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipperatl Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 Very uncommon wintering bird in my county and area 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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