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1 minute ago, Aidan B said:

Why is this not a dull female Virginia's Warbler? Seems to have a full eyering. 

That’s what I was hoping for. And unfortunately, these are the only pics I got. 

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I don't think it is green enough overall for Orange-crowned. I was leaning Virginia's Warbler (yellow undertail coverts changing to grey on the belly and maybe a hint of rufous on the head) but the green on the wings is wrong.

How about a very dull Nashville?

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6 hours ago, Aidan B said:

Why is this not a dull female Virginia's Warbler? Seems to have a full eyering. 

Ahhh, late night ID’s strike again. 
 

Honestly did not know that they made it that far north! That looks like the best fit. @RobinHood I think the green is a lighting thing, as the wings look brown in other shots. 

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11 minutes ago, Caley Thomas 2.0 said:

Nashville would be my best guess here, but wouldn't call it from these pictures alone.

 

3 minutes ago, Birds are cool said:

Nashville Warbler for me. I am pretty confident in calling it Nashville from these pics. For starters look at that eye ring!

So why not Virginia’s? I have never seen a Nashville that dull, and I’m having trouble finding anything close on Macaulay. All the birds show at least some mottled yellow below, and the green in the wings is much stronger. 
 

Also, this one of the coolest shots I’ve ever seen! https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/265530851

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1 minute ago, Avery said:

 

So why not Virginia’s? I have never seen a Nashville that dull, and I’m having trouble finding anything close on Macaulay. All the birds show at least some mottled yellow below, and the green in the wings is much stronger. 
 

Also, this one of the coolest shots I’ve ever seen! https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/265530851

That is a pretty awesome picture!  Personally, I think no on Virginia's because I don't think the yellow/green in the wing is an artifact of light, and I'm not aware of any Virginia's having that coloration in their wings.  As for why not fully identifiable, I just don't think we have a clean enough shot of the eye ring to tell if it's complete or not, so I'm currently stuck between OCWA/NAWA, not sure which.

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1 hour ago, Avery said:

 

So why not Virginia’s? I have never seen a Nashville that dull, and I’m having trouble finding anything close on Macaulay. All the birds show at least some mottled yellow below, and the green in the wings is much stronger. 
 

Also, this one of the coolest shots I’ve ever seen! https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/265530851

Sick photo! @Caley Thomas 2.0 pointed out most of the reasons.

1 hour ago, Caley Thomas 2.0 said:

That is a pretty awesome picture!  Personally, I think no on Virginia's because I don't think the yellow/green in the wing is an artifact of light, and I'm not aware of any Virginia's having that coloration in their wings.  As for why not fully identifiable, I just don't think we have a clean enough shot of the eye ring to tell if it's complete or not, so I'm currently stuck between OCWA/NAWA, not sure which.

 

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I having a VERY hard time seeing this as a Virginia. Every photo I can find of VIWA has at east some green on the wingbars.  This bird doesn’t. I also feel the overall color is off, but that’s hard to explain. 
 

As for Nashville, I just can’t see this as one. 
 

I guess I’m fine if people really think VIWA or NAWA, but can somebody please domain why this isn’t a drab Common Yellowthroat female??

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7 minutes ago, IKLland said:

but can somebody please domain why this isn’t a drab Common Yellowthroat female??

Look at the color of the bill. Females and immatures have cream/punk colored bills. This bird has a black bill.

After looking at some more photos of Virginia and Nashville Warblers, I am sure that this bird is an immature Nashville.

Best photos I could find. I found some other pretty good ones, but the birds aren't as drab as the bird in the OP.

https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/276621171

 

https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/375588321

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4 minutes ago, Aidan B said:

I think everyone is ignoring the time of year. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I belive that there should be no immature Nashvilles at this time of year as they molt into adult plumage on the wintering ground. 

Here's a few similar plumaged birds from this time of year

https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/73817141

https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/551281721

I agree. For me, it’s between VIWA and COYE. What are your thoughts on COYE for this bird?

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1 hour ago, IKLland said:

Every photo I can find of VIWA has at east some green on the wingbars. 
 

I’m confused. VIWA doesn’t have green in the wings, and doesn’t have wingbars…

Also, every Nashville Warbler photo I can find, including the ones posted here, have yellow on the breast/belly. VIWA can have yellow in the breast, but also can be completely gray underneath. The bird we are looking at here has no yellow on the breast. 

 

2 minutes ago, IKLland said:

I agree. For me, it’s between VIWA and COYE. What are your thoughts on COYE for this bird?

I don’t think any adult COYE has gray underparts. 

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1 minute ago, Avery said:

I’m confused. VIWA doesn’t have green in the wings, and doesn’t have wingbars…

Also, every Nashville Warbler photo I can find, including the ones posted here, have yellow on the breast/belly. VIWA can have yellow in the breast, but also can be completely gray underneath. The bird we are looking at here has no yellow on the breast. 

 

I don’t think any adult COYE has gray underparts. 

Thanks. I looked at some photos before school today or VIWA and I saw greenish wingbars. Now that I look again I can’t find any of that. Strange, but I get it. 
 

Im in agreement with VIWA now. 

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