Aidan B Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 What are everyone's thoughts on this Myiarchus? I thought possibly Brown-crested but that would be unusual in this area of San Bernardino (Barstow Community colllege). No shots of the underside of the tail sadly. Seen a couple hours ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Honestly, that bill looks too short and slender for a BCFL. Also just feels like an ATfL to me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds are cool Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 IMO looks better for BCFL to me. Bill seems fine for BC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackburnian Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 That bill rules out Brown-crested, far too slender. Looks fine for an Ash-throated 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackburnian Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 6 hours ago, Birds are cool said: IMO looks better for BCFL to me. Bill seems fine for BC. Can I ask why? Brown-crested Flycatchers have very thick bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds are cool Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 1 hour ago, blackburnian said: Can I ask why? Brown-crested Flycatchers have very thick bills Seems way to long for an Ash-throated, and doesn't seem as thin as an Ash-throated. I have no experience with western flycatchers, so I am not 100 percent sure. That's why I said IMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackburnian Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 2 hours ago, Birds are cool said: Seems way to long for an Ash-throated, and doesn't seem as thin as an Ash-throated. I have no experience with western flycatchers, so I am not 100 percent sure. That's why I said IMO I think it’s missing some feathers around the bill, which could explain it looking “longer” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan B Posted May 28 Author Share Posted May 28 I've showed these photos to a lot of the other birders I've run into down in the desert over the past couple days, many of whom are super well known California birders, and every single person has said Brown-crested for this bird. Some of these people have been birding the desert close to yearly for decades. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinHood Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 @Aidan B Not sure how reliable this is but Sibley shows a longer primary projection ,four feathers?, for the Brown-crested versus two feathers? for tne Ash-throated (like your bird which also has a very pale throat). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 10 hours ago, Aidan B said: I've showed these photos to a lot of the other birders I've run into down in the desert over the past couple days, many of whom are super well known California birders, and every single person has said Brown-crested for this bird. Some of these people have been birding the desert close to yearly for decades. Huh. I’ll text it to my reviewer, if that’s ok with you? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan B Posted May 28 Author Share Posted May 28 3 hours ago, IKLland said: Huh. I’ll text it to my reviewer, if that’s ok with you? Fine with me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 10 minutes ago, Aidan B said: Fine with me I sent it to Tom Wurster, Bruce Aird, and Paul Lehman. I’ll let you know when they write back. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAL Land Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 (edited) Here is what Bruce wrote: Edited May 28 by BAL Land 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAL Land Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 And here’s what Paul wrote 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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