Caley Thomas 2.0 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Looks like Cassin’s by plumage and range 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Thomas 2.0 Posted August 29 Author Share Posted August 29 (edited) 2 minutes ago, IKLland said: Looks like Cassin’s by plumage and range I really want it to be, because it would be a lifer, but wasn't sure about it. Tough ID for me (Plumbeous vs Cassin's). Edited August 29 by Caley Thomas 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 13 minutes ago, Caley Thomas 2.0 said: I really want it to be, because it would be a lifer, but wasn't sure about it. Tough ID for me (Plumbeous vs Cassin's). I’ve never seen a PLVI with that much yellow wash on the sides. It’s definitely not BHVi. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan B Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 @Caley Thomas 2.0 Do you have any photos showing the secondaries? I'm having a hard time seeing them. They're yellow in CAVI and white in PLVI. I'm certainly not convinced either way, though I'm leaning CAVI. I'm a little concerned by the head to throat contrast. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Thomas 2.0 Posted August 30 Author Share Posted August 30 (edited) 6 hours ago, Aidan B said: @Caley Thomas 2.0 Do you have any photos showing the secondaries? I'm having a hard time seeing them. They're yellow in CAVI and white in PLVI. I'm certainly not convinced either way, though I'm leaning CAVI. I'm a little concerned by the head to throat contrast. I appreciate your attention and tenacity towards this ID for my benefit. I went and looked for the requested, and while I never have the best angles for good views of the secondaries, all i can see is white. Further, after consulting with my reviewer who is ridiculously experienced with all this particular jazz, he suggested PLVI here, and that was good enough for me to switch it (I'm not saying it's 100% only a PLVI in my view either, just that I want a more clear / less ambiguous, more definitive example for a lifer photo of a new species for me, if that makes any sense to you). I'll be back at GMNP either this weekend or the next, so the chances for this CAVI lifer are not out of the question in my near future at least Edited August 30 by Caley Thomas 2.0 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 I personally cannot see this as a PLVI but I have limited experience with them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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