Clip Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 I know what I hope this is but I'm am very uncertain as part of the face is covered by vegetation and I have never seen one before if it is what I hope. The parts of the bird that show well aren't very distinct either. No other species comes to mind that it might be so here I am asking what is this LBJ? Duval County (NE) Florida 9-21-2023. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 Sedge/Marsh Wren. But I don't care to call it from the phone. I'll take a look at it on the computer when I get a chance. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds are cool Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 LBJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 Just now, Birds are cool said: LBJ? Little Brown Jug? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds are cool Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 Don't see why this isn't a Carolina Wren. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 2 minutes ago, Birds are cool said: Don't see why this isn't a Carolina Wren. Bill doesn't seem long enough, no buffy orange underneath and that eye line is pretty faint for Carolina.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 3 minutes ago, Kevin said: Bill doesn't seem long enough, Strike that, it's hard to tell with that plant right at the end of it's bill. Also though, there is no spotting on the wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiscalus quiscula Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 This is a pretty clear-cut Palm Warbler to me. It's kinda blurry but you can still see the facial pattern, and habitat is typical. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 9 minutes ago, Quiscalus quiscula said: This is a pretty clear-cut Palm Warbler to me. It's kinda blurry but you can still see the facial pattern, and habitat is typical. Glad to see another thought as now that I'm at the big screen can't make it fit any of the wrens. On the other hand... Could you provide a reference for Palm Warbler? I have never seen one so going completely off book knowledge, but a quick look at Sibley's shows them being fairly yellow, with no sign of a rufous wing. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 100% Palm Warbler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiscalus quiscula Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 5 minutes ago, Kevin said: Glad to see another thought as now that I'm at the big screen can't make it fit any of the wrens. On the other hand... Could you provide a reference for Palm Warbler? I have never seen one so going completely off book knowledge, but a quick look at Sibley's shows them being fairly yellow, with no sign of a rufous wing. Thanks! This bird looks rather similar if that's what you meant by a reference. https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/381676501 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Friedman Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 53 minutes ago, Kevin said: Little Brown Jug? Little Brown Job. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonestranger Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 1 hour ago, Jerry Friedman said: Little Brown Job. That's when the ID is unknown. 2 hours ago, Kevin said: Little Brown Jug? That's for when the LBJ is identified and turns out to be a surprising Little Birding Jewel. 😉 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLecy Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 4 hours ago, IKLland said: 100% Palm Warbler Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clip Posted September 24 Author Share Posted September 24 I have seen 100s of Palm Warblers and I ruled it out. No yellow under tail for one thing. I was thinking Swainson's Warbler which are similar at least in the books. One was seen by another excellent birder in the same area in the same time frame. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 8 hours ago, Jerry Friedman said: Little Brown Job. Oh, never heard that terminology before. The only thing that it fit for me was a president, which I was pretty sure wasn't the reference! 3 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 This is a palm warbler. Immatures can be VERY dull, especially in fall. https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/609213400 https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/609212203 https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/609209221 https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/609188248 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pictaker Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 Palm warbler, maybe a western palm which would account for the dull look 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackburnian Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 Certainly a Palm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLecy Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 Not a Swainson’s Warbler. If you post publicly on the forum, why not be open to the feedback? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clip Posted September 25 Author Share Posted September 25 4 hours ago, DLecy said: Not a Swainson’s Warbler. If you post publicly on the forum, why not be open to the feedback? I don't even no why you would say this. Of course, I'm open to the feedback. But, it does not mean I can't share what I was thinking and why. And it doesn't mean you or I are correct. This is a tough call. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 (edited) 4 hours ago, Clip said: I don't even no why you would say this. Of course, I'm open to the feedback. But, it does not mean I can't share what I was thinking and why. And it doesn't mean you or I are correct. This is a tough call. I agree that you are entitled to your opinions and are allowed to express them. However, this bird IS without a doubt a Palm Warbler. If you want to believe otherwise, feel free, but you would be incorrect. Edited September 25 by IKLland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLecy Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 4 hours ago, Clip said: I don't even no why you would say this. Of course, I'm open to the feedback. But, it does not mean I can't share what I was thinking and why. And it doesn't mean you or I are correct. This is a tough call. I’m not saying I’m correct and I’m not saying this ID is easy. However, there appears to be a clear cut consensus in this thread as to the ID of the bird. Yet, it doesn’t appear that you are convinced, so I’m not sure what exactly would convince you that this is in fact, a Palm Warbler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 I'm locking this thread before it goes in the wrong direction, although so far it has remained civil and polite. Users come here to ask for an ID because they respect the other users here as being knowledgeable about birds, this doesn't mean they have to except the ID though. Give your reasons and if your very sure recommend the poster only count it on his/her private lists and leave it as an sp or / on eBird or similar sites, then let it go. If the poster isn't convinced by your reasoning continuing to discuses it is most likely going nowhere. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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