SirVive Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 Today in Vancouver WA. Red-tailed ssp that I'm not used to seeing? Otherwise it's a yard first and likely a lifer too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackburnian Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 Red-tailed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirVive Posted September 30 Author Share Posted September 30 What ssp? I'm not used to seeing them without a belly band 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pictaker Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 (edited) Why isn’t this a red shouldered?… taking in the fact I am on the east coast Edited October 1 by pictaker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Friedman Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 4 hours ago, SirVive said: What ssp? I'm not used to seeing them without a belly band Western (calurus), intermediate or rufous morph. It does have a belly band, which doesn't stand out well, belng blackish on a rufous background. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Friedman Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 1 hour ago, pictaker said: Why isn’t this a red shouldered?… taking in the fact I am on the east coast In addition to the belly-band, an adult Red-shouldered would have very contrasting markings on the wings and tail in this view, I believe. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pictaker Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 7 hours ago, Jerry Friedman said: In addition to the belly-band, an adult Red-shouldered would have very contrasting markings on the wings and tail in this view, I believe. Thanks, just did a deep dive on western red tails and man you guys got all kinds out there,LOL, If I saw this bird here in jersey I would have thought red shouldered all day, thanks for taking the time to explain it... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 15 hours ago, Jerry Friedman said: In addition to the belly-band, an adult Red-shouldered would have very contrasting markings on the wings and tail in this view, I believe. A Rsha wouldn’t have such a dark head either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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