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Song Sparrows in northern Arizona this morning?


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Hi folks. I saw some little brown birds this morning (9/30) in northern Arizona. The location has some little ponds and plants. Here are some photos of different birds. Are these Song Sparrows? What should I be looking for to ID birds like these? The stripy fronts?

Also, in the first photo, is it probably a female (upper) and male (lower), due to the size difference?

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Since nobody else has replied yet, I'll start this off:

I don't think any of these are Song Sparrows, sorry!

All Song Sparrows (as far as I know) have a distinctive brown streaking pattern on their face: https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/sonspa

I am not familiar with all of the species pictured yet (I am new to birding myself). Possibly one or two of these is a House Finch (female/immature), but I can't say with any degree of certainty without doing more research as there are other similar looking birds.

In your last photo, in particular, note the very well-defined white eyering. This might be a Vesper Sparrow, but I've never seen one and can't say for sure.

The topmost bird might be a Pine Siskin - note the narrower bill.

In summary, my *guesses* are (from top to bottom): Pine Siskin, House Finch, House Finch, Vesper Sparrow

I'm sure by tomorrow morning you'll have more definitive answers from other good folks here!

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