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  1. Curve-billed Thrasher
  2. Pine Siskin
  3. Oriole, maybe a female Scott's?
  4. Brown-crested Flycatcher (I think given the big bill and large crest, Dusky-capped and Ash-throated would be the other possibilities)
  5. Hepatic Tanager
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1. Thrasher, I believe Bendire’s but not 100% certain

2. Pine Siskin 

3. Bullock’s Oriole

4. Either Ash-throated or Dusky-capped Flycatcher, not sure, leaning the latter

5. Hepatic Tanager 

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Just now, neilpa said:
  1. Curve-billed Thrasher
  2. Pine Siskin
  3. Oriole, maybe a female Scott's?
  4. Brown-crested Flycatcher (I think given the big bill and large crest, Dusky-capped and Ash-throated would be the other possibilities)
  5. Hepatic Tanager

 

1 minute ago, Ruslan Balagansky said:

1. Curve-billed Thrasher

2. Pine Siskin

3. Bullock's Oriole

4. Ash-throated Flycatcher

5. Hepatic Tanager

Just curious why the thrasher isn’t Bendire’s? Thanks!

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2 minutes ago, IKLland said:

 

Just curious why the thrasher isn’t Bendire’s? Thanks!

That bill looks too long and thick for Bendire's. I could be wrong though

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8 minutes ago, Ruslan Balagansky said:

That bill doesn't look thick enough for Brown-crested to me.

Fair enough

5 minutes ago, Ruslan Balagansky said:

The main reason I think it's Bendire's now is the shape of the spots - they seem clearly triangular to me.

Thanks, I wasn't aware of that field mark

This is what I get for trying to quickly ID birds after just a few days in AZ last week.

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Just to sum up so far:

1. Bendire's Thrasher (Thanks, @IKLland)

2. Pine Siskin

3. Bullock's Oriole

4. I still think it's Ash-throated. Tail pattern seems wrong for Dusky-capped and bill not thick enough for Brown-crested. But we might need some tie-breaker opinions here 🙂

5. Hepatic Tanager

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Perhaps the more obvious reason it's Ash-throated and not Dusky capped is that the auriculars are gray (there's shadow in the photo, but they're gray).

I've only seen one Dusky-capped and multitudes of Ash-throated. I could be wrong.

The bill seems more indeterminate, but may be a bit too large for Dusky-capped.

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I'm almost 100% certain that the thrasher is a Curve-billed and not Bendire's. To my eye Bendire's has a shorter, less curved bill, is usually quite a bit paler, and the streaking is less heavy. In addition, Bendire's is fairly localized and uncommon throughout much of their range (more habitat specialized I believe), whereas Curve-billed Thrashers are everywhere. 

As for the Myiarchus, I'd agree with Ash-throated. 

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10 minutes ago, Aidan B said:

I'm almost 100% certain that the thrasher is a Curve-billed and not Bendire's. To my eye Bendire's has a shorter, less curved bill, is usually quite a bit paler, and the streaking is less heavy. In addition, Bendire's is fairly localized and uncommon throughout much of their range (more habitat specialized I believe), whereas Curve-billed Thrashers are everywhere. 

As for the Myiarchus, I'd agree with Ash-throated. 

Agree with this. The thrasher is a Curve-billed, no doubt.

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11 minutes ago, Aidan B said:

I'm almost 100% certain that the thrasher is a Curve-billed and not Bendire's. To my eye Bendire's has a shorter, less curved bill

I guess I wasn't off base with my initial inclination.

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35 minutes ago, Aidan B said:

I'm almost 100% certain that the thrasher is a Curve-billed and not Bendire's. To my eye Bendire's has a shorter, less curved bill, is usually quite a bit paler, and the streaking is less heavy. In addition, Bendire's is fairly localized and uncommon throughout much of their range (more habitat specialized I believe), whereas Curve-billed Thrashers are everywhere. 

As for the Myiarchus, I'd agree with Ash-throated. 

So…I’m assuming the shape of the chest spots is highly variable then?

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2 minutes ago, neilpa said:

One of the example photos on All About Birds shows a Curve-billed with rather triangular spots like the bird in this post
https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Curve-billed_Thrasher/photo-gallery/303921251

But still not nearly as triangular to my eyes as the one pictured in OP.

Of course I will defer to the experts here. It's great to have you all so we can not only get more reliable IDs but also learn something in the process!

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3 hours ago, Ruslan Balagansky said:

1. Curve-billed Thrasher

2. Pine Siskin

3. Bullock's Oriole

4. Ash-throated Flycatcher

5. Hepatic Tanager

Updated summary - current consensus seems to align with initial (partly educated) guess. Beginner's luck 😉

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