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Surely Costa Rica is in North America and all these threads about Costa Rican birds should be in the North American forum. Likewise Panama. 

At the minute they are swamping out this forum and the genuine Rest of World topics are getting drowned out.

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12 minutes ago, MattR said:

Surely Costa Rica is in North America and all these threads about Costa Rican birds should be in the North American forum. Likewise Panama. 

At the minute they are swamping out this forum and the genuine Rest of World topics are getting drowned out.

Isn't Costa Rica in Central America? That would explain why people are asking for Costa Rica IDs here in the Outside North America forum.

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Yes, Costa Rica is on the North American continent.  However, what we call the “North America forum” generally goes off the ABA definition, basically the US and Canada.  I’m fine with Costa Rica going either place, honestly.  The topics would likely get pushed off the first page and forgotten quickly if they were in the “North America forum”. 

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48 minutes ago, IvoryBillHope said:

Yes, Costa Rica is on the North American continent.  However, what we call the “North America forum” generally goes off the ABA definition, basically the US and Canada.  I’m fine with Costa Rica going either place, honestly.  The topics would likely get pushed off the first page and forgotten quickly if they were in the “North America forum”. 

Thanks for pointing out the continental, and ABA, differences that I never considered IvoryBillHope. Perhaps to avoid/lessen confusion in the future, the name of this forum could be changed to something like, Birds Outside North America's ABA Area, and the main ID forum changed to North American Birds Within the ABA Area. I'm not sure if there is enough of an issue for @Administrator to consider these changes though, especially when there's already so many other changes being asked for by the members.

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What is North America seems to vary on geopolitical bases.  As for birders, and specifically at this forum, I think we treat NA basically as the ABA area.  I am perfectly fine with this forum being anything not in the ABA. 

I think it would be much better to place birds from Mexico and Costa Rica in this forum.  There really aren't that many of those posts, so I don't think that Costa Rica posts are swamping out the rest, at least certainly not to the same degree that the Costa Rica posts would surely be swamped out of the main identification forum.  Given that many of the US based birders are nearly as familiar with birds outside the ABA, it can take a while to get a response to a non-ABA post, and by that point the post would no longer be one the first page and may never be seen.  Whereas on this page, you'll see that the first page of this forum still goes back to mid February, so certainly CR isn't swamping out all other posts.

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I strongly agree with the comments about the Central American birds getting lost in the North American forum. Most of my ID requests used to go unanswered until they started the world birds forum on the old verison of the forums. I personally would also recommend posting Mexican birds here for the same reason. This forum dosn't get enough action for any posts to be drowning others, in my opinion. 

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On 4/1/2019 at 7:39 AM, guy_incognito said:

What is North America seems to vary on geopolitical bases.  As for birders, and specifically at this forum, I think we treat NA basically as the ABA area.  I am perfectly fine with this forum being anything not in the ABA. 

I think it would be much better to place birds from Mexico and Costa Rica in this forum.  There really aren't that many of those posts, so I don't think that Costa Rica posts are swamping out the rest, at least certainly not to the same degree that the Costa Rica posts would surely be swamped out of the main identification forum.  Given that many of the US based birders are nearly as familiar with birds outside the ABA, it can take a while to get a response to a non-ABA post, and by that point the post would no longer be one the first page and may never be seen.  Whereas on this page, you'll see that the first page of this forum still goes back to mid February, so certainly CR isn't swamping out all other posts.

correction, meant to say "are NOT nearly"

I miss the ability to edit posts for more than 5 minutes.

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Thanks for clarifying. I've never heard of the ABA so it's a little confusing that some of North America is in it and some is not.

Perhaps there should be there forums: North America (ABA), Rest of the Americas (non ABA) and Rest of World. This would avoid the current confusion. 

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