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Welcome!  We understand you're excited to learn about that mystery bird you saw, and we're delighted to help.  Some members can give you an answer based on a surprisingly small amount of data.  Still, the more information you provide, the more likely we'll reach a correct identification.

Please start a new post for your bird; your request may be overlooked if you add it to an existing discussion.   At a minimum, please include these items:
⦁    What did the bird look like?  If you have photos (or audio files!), you can drag the files directly into your post.  You can also link to most popular photo sharing sites. (Please do not edit photos beyond cropping and lightening.)  If not, what colors were the head, body, wings, and tail?  Can you compare the mystery bird to a bird you're already familiar with?  Was it smaller, fatter, longer necked, shorter tailed, etc.?
⦁    Where did you see the bird?  Please tell us what state or province you were in.   Other useful items are geographic region, city or county, local or national park, body of water, etc.  Please avoid using zip codes; researching them slows your request.
⦁    When did you see the bird?  Often the month is enough, although the day or week is better.   Time of day is also useful (early morning, middle of the night, etc.)

That information is usually enough, but some birds are very similar.  These items can be useful in narrowing down the options:
⦁    What was the local environment?  Was the bird in a forest, desert, beach, urban area, etc.?  Was it raining, snowing, windy, etc.?
⦁    What was the bird doing?  Was it hopping, flying, singing, sitting still, etc.?  If it was eating, what was it having for lunch?
⦁    Were there other birds?  Did they look like the mystery bird or were they different?  Were there a few of them or many?

Please limit your requests to five birds per post.  When there are more than five ID requests in a single post, it becomes difficult to follow the discussion of each bird or photo.

If you think you know what the bird is, please enter its name as a tag.  For multiple species, it's easier to use tags than to list them all as a lengthy title.  Also, tags improve search results.  You can enter the location as a tag, too.  To use tags in a new post, look for 'Tags' near the top and click '+Choose'.  Enter your tags separated by commas, such as 'Carolina Wren, Blue Jay, Lexington, South Carolina' (without the quotes).

Please be patient.  We have many active members, but we aren't Facebook or Twitter.  It may be a few hours before our members respond, especially if your request requires research.   If you don't have a reply within 24 hours, feel free to 'Bump' your question.

Sometimes a bird can't be identified.   All of us here have had sightings and photos that left us scratching our heads.  That's just part of birding.

Thanks for joining us!   We hope you come to enjoy birding as much as we do.

Please also check out our tips for new birders thread for lots of helpful information and suggestions to improve your birding experience.

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Thanks a lot for this post Charlie, it is very helpful!!

And just a reminder that, when possible, it is important to listen to the calls... Sometimes that is the only way to tell some birds apart!   :classic_biggrin:

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On 7/26/2018 at 9:04 PM, Mila said:

Thanks a lot for this post Charlie, it is very helpful!!

And just a reminder that, when possible, it is important to listen to the calls... Sometimes that is the only way to tell some birds apart!   :classic_biggrin:

I agree with your thanks to Charlie and that sounds are important.  I'd definitely add something, maybe after the "What did the bird look like?" section

Or What did the bird sound like?  If you can, make a sound recording or a video with sound of the bird and upload it to an external site.  If you heard sounds the bird made but didn't record them, describing them can help.  You can imitate sounds with words or nonsense words ("wit wit tew tew tew") or describe them musically.  How long did calls or songs last and how much time was there between them?  The tone is as important as the tune.  Did you hear whistles, chirps, trills, buzzes, squawks, coos?  Did the sound remind you of another bird, or of any musical instrument or other familiar sound?

I didn't follow the earlier discussion, so I apologize if the following has been suggested already.

In the "What did the bird look like?" section, I'd change the first "photos" to "photos or videos".

At the end of the "Please limit" paragraph, I'd add, "If you have more than photo, please indicate clearly whether photos are of the same bird or whether you're not sure.  Good ways are to number the photos (for example, "1, 2, and 3 are one bird, and 4 and 5 are another") or number the birds (for example, "1. [three photos here] 2. [two photos here])."

I'd also add, "Don't stop looking for answers when you've gotten one.  Sometimes someone will improve the first answer or correct it--everybody makes mistakes once in a while.  Or people will agree with the first answer, which makes you more confident."

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I joined the site a couple of days ago but, in my excitement to start receiving help, missed the important "must read' introductory emails.

Excellent guide for posting (I must do better!!!).

I also noticed you provide encouragement where necessary.

Much appreciated Charlie.

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Small flock of medium sized birds walking on sandy beach in Pensacola Florida on August 11. Black back, tail and head. Short legs. White face, neck, and undersides. The most striking thing was the bill which was too large for the head,  quite thick and fairly long, color red or orange near the face and changing to black as it tapered. When open, the bill resembled a pair of pliers. They were quite loud  and raucous  

Thanks for helping. I have a picture but not sure how to make a url. 

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Sorry to be a little scarce lately! I had some major internet problems and the September craziness is in full swing (the 15th is Independence Day here, and we have activities all month long). But I've deleted the ID requests that were reposted, as well as @Charlie Spencer's replies to them and my own. @Shazam, I hid your post rather than deleting it, bcause you haven't reposted the ID request. If you need the post back let me know.

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@Aveschapines, can you make a modification to the first paragraph?

Replace

"What did the bird look like?  If you have photos, you can link to most popular photo sharing sites."

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"What did the bird look like?  If you have photos (or audio files!), you can drag the files directly into your post.  You can also link to most popular photo sharing sites."

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I’m trying to identify a bird by it’s song. This year is the first time I’ve heard it. It sounds precisely like the PC Richards jingle. I’d attach audio if I could figure out how to do that. BTW, I’m in midcoast Maine, if that helps. Thanks.

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10 hours ago, JerryS said:

I’m trying to identify a bird by it’s song. This year is the first time I’ve heard it. It sounds precisely like the PC Richards jingle. I’d attach audio if I could figure out how to do that. BTW, I’m in midcoast Maine, if that helps. Thanks.

Please repost in the Help me Identify a North American Bird forum. Paste the URL to your audio into your post. Thanks! 

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On 7/26/2018 at 5:39 AM, Charlie Spencer said:

Welcome!  We understand you're excited to learn about that mystery bird you saw, and we're delighted to help.  Some members can give you an answer based on a surprisingly small amount of data.  Still, the more information you provide, the more likely we'll reach a correct identification.

Please start a new post for your bird; your request may be overlooked if you add it to an existing discussion.   At a minimum, please include these items:
⦁    What did the bird look like?  If you have photos (or audio files!), you can drag the files directly into your post.  You can also link to most popular photo sharing sites  If not, what colors were the head, body, wings, and tail?  Can you compare the mystery bird to a bird you're already familiar with?  Was it smaller, fatter, longer necked, shorter tailed, etc.?
⦁    Where did you see the bird?  Please tell us what state or province you were in.   Other useful items are geographic region, city or county, local or national park, body of water, etc.  Please avoid using zip codes; researching them slows your request.
⦁    When did you see the bird?  Often the month is enough, although the day or week is better.   Time of day is also useful (early morning, middle of the night, etc.)

That information is usually enough, but some birds are very similar.  These items can be useful in narrowing down the options:
⦁    What was the local environment?  Was the bird in a forest, desert, beach, urban area, etc.?  Was it raining, snowing, windy, etc.?
⦁    What was the bird doing?  Was it hopping, flying, singing, sitting still, etc.?  If it was eating, what was it having for lunch?
⦁    Were there other birds?  Did they look like the mystery bird or were they different?  Were there a few of them or many?

Please limit your requests to five birds per post.  When there are more than five ID requests in a single post, it becomes difficult to follow the discussion of each bird or photo.

If you think you know what the bird is, please enter its name as a tag.  For multiple species, it's easier to use tags than to list them all as a lengthy title.  Also, tags improve search results.  You can enter the location as a tag, too.  To use tags in a new post, look for 'Tags' near the top and click '+Choose'.  Enter your tags separated by commas, such as 'Carolina Wren, Blue Jay, Lexington, South Carolina' (without the quotes).

Please be patient.  We have many active members, but we aren't Facebook or Twitter.  It may be a few hours before our members respond, especially if your request requires research.   If you don't have a reply within 24 hours, feel free to 'Bump' your question.

Sometimes a bird can't be identified.   All of us here have had sightings and photos that left us scratching our heads.  That's just part of birding.

Thanks for joining us!   We hope you come to enjoy birding as much as we do.

The sharing is very useful, hope you will have many good articles like this one.

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On 6/28/2020 at 10:44 PM, Aveschapines said:

Are there other topics you'd like to read more about? (There is one about dealing with baby or injured birds at the top of the page.)

in the article regarding baby/injured birds, the link to find rehabilitation directed to a lost page. in u.s., one may search for rehabilitation by state d.e.c. site.

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On 6/28/2020 at 10:44 PM, Aveschapines said:

Are there other topics you'd like to read more about? (There is one about dealing with baby or injured birds at the top of the page.)

I've been thinking about some kind of brief intro to birding resources on the web - eBird, AAB, etc.  Possibly even an intro to birding in general, since COVID is inspiring a covey / flock / gaggle of new birders.  Probably something collaborative again.  Thoughts?

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8 hours ago, Charlie Spencer said:

I've been thinking about some kind of brief intro to birding resources on the web - eBird, AAB, etc.  Possibly even an intro to birding in general, since COVID is inspiring a covey / flock / gaggle of new birders.  Probably something collaborative again.  Thoughts?

That sounds good! I like the idea of both - intro to birding including resources. Are you insterested in getting a few people together to work on it?

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