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Saw these two warblers in Brooklyn, NY yesterday.  Can't quite identify them.  I think the first one (two pictures) is a Nashville warbler, but I'm not quite sure. The second one is confusing me more.  At first I thought it was just a Yellow Warbler, but the color seems a bit off to me and the eye ring is throwing me for a bit of a loop.  Plus, I couldn't quite see wing bars?  Maybe it's jut odd lighting though.  Or my other thought is perhaps it's a female Wilson's warbler?  I'm all ears.

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4 hours ago, akiley said:

You have a nice Mourning Warbler and a Yellow.

The Yellow was quite nice as well!  Very polite.  😉

Just for my edification, what makes you say Mourning over Nashville?

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17 minutes ago, GMG said:

The Yellow was quite nice as well!  Very polite.  😉

Just for my edification, what makes you say Mourning over Nashville?

A Nashville will show a complete eye ring, a smaller bill, and sharper contrast between the head, which is gray, and the yellow breast.

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18 minutes ago, GMG said:

The Yellow was quite nice as well!  Very polite.  😉

Just for my edification, what makes you say Mourning over Nashville?

Nashvilles are tiny warblers with a distinct gray head (that contrasts well with the body), short tail, compact shape, and generally very bright yellow below. Structure is also important here- look how elongated, bulky and stocky this guy is. Mourning is one of the biggest warblers. Nashvilles are tiny little guys.

Edit- Blackburnian beat me to it, but we both covered different areas of the ID.

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Thank you!  You guys are good!  And incredibly helpful.  Glad I found this site.  Now you'll be stuck with me asking a thousand questions a week.  😂😂

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Just now, GMG said:

Thank you!  You guys are good!  And incredibly helpful.  Glad I found this site.  Now you'll be stuck with me asking a thousand questions a week.  😂😂

We'd be happy to answer all of them.

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Coming back to this posting.  After posting last month I submitted the bird into eBird as a Mourning Warbler.  Then I promptly forgot about it. Because Mourning Warblers are rare in Brooklyn, it was sent through the eBird verification process and a few days ago I noticed it hadn’t been verified so I reached out to eBird.  They took a look and asked if this bird was not a Connecticut Warbler.  At the time, thought the eye ring looks broken in the picture and because they are also quite rare hadn’t spent much time thinking that was a real possibility.  BUT, here’s the kicker, I took a look on eBird and the morning after I took this pic, someone ID’ed a Connecticut literally less than 10 feet from where this picture was taken. It was seen by 5 or 6 birders and lingered for the entire day.  So now I’m thinking maybe it IS indeed a CT warbler!  It would be a simpler explanation that one rare bird was there And lingered than to think there were TWO different rare birds on consecutive days! I would love to be able to definitely ID this bird. It’s frustrating to think I found on of two fairly rare birds and not be able to tell which one!  So if anyone has any thoughts on this or further feedback to tell one way or the other what this bird is, I am all ears. 

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The broken eye ring might be a photo artifact.  Occam's razor might apply here.

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Thanks!  Agree on both counts.  Was just hoping someone could point to something definitive, though given the low quality of the pic, that's probably asking for too much.

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Still looks like a Mourning to me. It's far from unprecedented to see both Mourning and CT in the same location in similar time frames. They're both skulkers and like similar habitat. 

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Your bird is not a CT Warbler. It's still a Mourning. A CT nearby doesn't make a Mourning a CT.

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Thanks. But is there anything in particular that makes you positively reject the CT?  I still think the eye is too small and the eye ring broken, but I’m curious. Anywhoo, here’s a side by side of my bird with a similar pic of the CT seen a few days later. 

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