Kevin Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) Sorry for the bad photos. Thanks! Today Palo Pinto Co. TX. (North central TX.) Edited November 12, 2019 by Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akandula Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) With that finely barred tail and primaries, mostly pale tail, and stocky appearance, this looks good for a young Harlan's RT Hawk in my opinion. Wait for more opinions. Edited November 12, 2019 by akandula 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Friedman Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 It's pretty brown for Harlan's and the tail might be too finely barred, more like a Western Red-tail, but it does have white around the eye, which is good for Harlan's. Or that's what I think I'm learning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 Thank you. Any more thoughts on the subspecies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted November 14, 2019 Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 On 11/12/2019 at 5:02 PM, Kevin said: Any more thoughts on the subspecies? ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted November 14, 2019 Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 On 11/12/2019 at 3:58 PM, Jerry Friedman said: It's pretty brown for Harlan's and the tail might be too finely barred, more like a Western Red-tail, but it does have white around the eye, which is good for Harlan's. Or that's what I think I'm learning. @Jerry Friedman Are you saying that you think it is a Harlan's or Western? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinmt Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 I think I see banding on P4 and P5 all the way to the tips. This would be good for a juvi dark Harlan's according to page 83 of "A Photographic Guide to North American Raptors" by Wheeler & Clark (2003). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Friedman Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 14 hours ago, Kevin said: @Jerry Friedman Are you saying that you think it is a Harlan's or Western? Yes ? I was looking for that primary banding too, incidentally, but I couldn't tell. If you want professional opinions and you're on Facebook, you could post this to the Raptor ID group. Or I could do it for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Friedman Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jerry Friedman said: Yes ? I was looking for that primary banding too, incidentally, but I couldn't tell. If you want professional opinions and you're on Facebook, you could post this to the Raptor ID group. Or I could do it for you. Or additional professional opinions--I don't know whether anyone here is an ornithologist. (And professional opinions aren't guaranteed at that group, but the amateur opinions seem to be good.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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