akandula Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 This is 100% an American Robin -- note the pale gray upperparts, white undertail coverts, and orange axillaries and belly. The wing position in the second photo is typical of robin. It is flying away from us, so it's impossible to see the eyes and bill. American Robins sometimes lack white tail corners. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 I do not have a problem with it being an American Robin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melierax Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 I should have mentioned - I completely agree with Robin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexHenry Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 41 minutes ago, Kevin said: And the sparrow (?) just sits by a a Great Horned Owl flies by? I was thinking Dark-eyed Junco. That's barely a snack for a Great Horned Owl. More Screech-Owl or Saw-whet Owl size meal. Great Horned Owls will go after birds, but mostly big stuff like grouse, waterfowl, even great blue herons. But mostly they eat large rodents like squirrels rabbits and skunks. Small songbirds are much more afraid of small owls. Just like how small songbirds are much more afraid of a Sharp-shinned Hawk than a Bald Eagle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefferson Shank Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 I think it is an American Robin. The tail on the first photo fits with an American Robin and the way the wings are folded on the second photo is just like an American Robin. This is 100% an American Robin -- note the pale gray upperparts, white undertail coverts, and orange axillaries and belly. The wing position in the second photo is typical of robin. It is flying away from us, so it's impossible to see the eyes and bill. American Robins sometimes lack white tail corners. LOL! I said American Robin on the first post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Spencer Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, akandula said: note the pale gray upperparts, white undertail coverts, and orange axillaries and belly. Okay, somebody break this down for me. I'd swear the belly and tail aren't even visible. Exactly what parts of this bird can we see? Red - Right wing Green - Tip of left wing Black - Part of tail Blue - Back Purple - Neck and where a head should be (Terra Incognito) Right? Because if it's headed away, I don't know what body parts I'm looking at! Edited March 6, 2020 by Charlie Spencer 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bird Nuts Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) I think it's more like this: Green - wings Red - back Blue - tail Not sure what is going on with the left wing, but there might be some rolling shutter weirdness going on. The other photo shows the belly. Edited March 6, 2020 by The Bird Nuts 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Spencer Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) Sunny beach. Sorry, I'm out of ''Likes' at the moment. I should have done that two pages ago. This makes a whole lot more sense than my interpretation. I couldn't figure out why people were referring to a folded wing when to me it was obviously fully extended. I still think the second photo looks like it belongs in Macy's parade between Elmo and Underdog. I don't see the orange belly akandula referred to. I just see a uniformly dark circle with two side pods. Edited March 6, 2020 by Charlie Spencer 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefferson Shank Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 I think it's more like this: Green - wings Red - back Blue - tail Not sure what is going on with the left wing, but there might be some rolling shutter weirdness going on. The other photo shows the belly. This is what I thought all along... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonesome55dove Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 6 hours ago, Charlie Spencer said: Wouldn't it be present in the second photo? If that was the case,wouldn't the rest of the bird be present too? Hey, stop that! Get your head out of my spleen! Oh, well, yes it should be...but it appears to my eyes that the second photo is a lot higher, above the tree tops and the photo has been cropped so maybe that ''streak'' isn't visible. Hm, now this makes me wonder if both photos were taken with the same camera...anyone have thoughts on that? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bird Nuts Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Maybe rolling shutter effect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefferson Shank Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Oh, well, yes it should be...but it appears to my eyes that the second photo is a lot higher, above the tree tops and the photo has been cropped so maybe that ''streak'' isn't visible. Hm, now this makes me wonder if both photos were taken with the same camera...anyone have thoughts on that? ? The streak doesn't really matter anymore... We identified the bird as an American Robin. Maybe rolling shutter effect? That's probably what the streak is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Spencer Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Okay, what's 'rolling shutter'? Is this a real thing I can Google? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefferson Shank Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Okay, what's 'rolling shutter'? Is this a real thing I can Google? Does THIS help you? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bird Nuts Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Charlie Spencer said: Is this a real thing I can Google? Yes, it's a real thing..that you can Google. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melierax Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Charlie Spencer said: Okay, what's 'rolling shutter'? Is this a real thing I can Google? Yep. That's the word I was looking for in attempting to describe it. Example I found on google: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Spencer Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, lonesome55dove said: Oh, well, yes it should be...but it appears to my eyes that the second photo is a lot higher, above the tree tops and the photo has been cropped so maybe that ''streak'' isn't visible. Hm, now this makes me wonder if both photos were taken with the same camera...anyone have thoughts on that? ? Same camera in the same spot at the same angle. Notice how everything except the bird and the mystery artifact are in the same positions in both spots. Even the sparrow barely moves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Spencer Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Melierax said: Yep. That's the word I was looking for in attempting to describe it. Example I found on google: Why would you enable this feature on a wildlife camera, and then ask others to identfy it? Also, that's sick and wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefferson Shank Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Same camera in the same spot at the same angle. Notice how everything except the bird and the mystery artifact are in the same positions in both spots. Even the sparrow barely moves. Definitely same camera at same position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melierax Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Just now, Charlie Spencer said: Why would you enable this feature on a wildlife camera, and then ask others to identfy it? Also, that's sick and wrong. It's not a feature, it just happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefferson Shank Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Why would you enable this feature on a wildlife camera, and then ask others to identify it? Also, that's sick and wrong. I don't think @strange bird could help it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bird Nuts Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jefferson Shank said: Definitely same camera at same position. Yeah, it's a trail/game camera...in case anyone didn't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Spencer Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Melierax said: It's not a feature, it just happens I'll have to take your word. I thought I'd found most ways to botch a photo. I'd like to know how this happens, so I can avoid it like a pit bull with coronavirus.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melierax Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Just now, Charlie Spencer said: I'll have to take your word. I thought I'd found most ways to botch a photo. I'd like to know how this happens, so I can avoid it like a pit bull with coronavirus.. Out of likes, but yeah. The link supplied above shows it. Generally rolling shutter happens in lower light and in lower end cameras or cameras not meant to take high quality footage, like phone cameras or trail cams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonesome55dove Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, Charlie Spencer said: Same camera in the same spot at the same angle. Notice how everything except the bird and the mystery artifact are in the same positions in both spots. Even the sparrow barely moves. Oh snap! Never mind me...I was looking at the two photos that RobinHood posted...not the originals!! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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