birdgurl Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 (edited) Not sure what I have. I think its a Rufous but could it be an Allens. Grants Pass, Or Edited March 8, 2020 by birdgurl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexHenry Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 (edited) Female Rufous/Allen's can't be IDed without good photos of spread tail, or based on range / time of year. If both Rufous and Allens are possible where you are, then it should be left as Rufous/Allens. Males are easier to ID based on more obvious differences in tail feather shape (Rufous has a notched R2), color of back (all rufous or only flecked green = Rufous, mostly green could be either but is more likely Allens), and the display. Edited March 8, 2020 by AlexHenry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darknight Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Rufous is the only realistic option in that area, Allen's are a more southern and coastal species. Reasonably pure Allen's extend just into the extreme southern coastal Oregon, where they then extensively hybridize with Rufous. By the time you get as far north and inland as Grant's Pass, they should all be pure Rufous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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