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Ross's or Snow?

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Southern Georgian Bay today.

A white and a dark, quite distant so heavy crop.

A pair of Ross's (both white) had been seen at this location the previous day but these birds "appeared" to be quite large and the bills looked larger than I have seen on Ross's.

The other birders there at the time were comfortable with Ross's but I just wanted to check.

Thanks.

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Agree with Snow Goose. A Ross's Goose would be noticeably smaller than the surrounding Canada Geese and would have a shorter and stubbier bill.

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13 minutes ago, RobinHood said:

The other birders there at the time were comfortable with Ross's but I just wanted to check.

Some birders gonna be putting fake Ross' Goose on their life lists.....

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32 minutes ago, AlexHenry said:

Some birders gonna be putting fake Ross' Goose on their life lists.....

That's concerning. This bird is obviously a Snow. Not even a hybrid candidate.

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17 minutes ago, akiley said:

That's concerning. This bird is obviously a Snow. Not even a hybrid candidate.

Ah well, we all make mistakes. I'd be lying if I said I was 100% sure about my lifer Northwestern Crow... 

Although, I've never really gotten why people find the Snow vs Ross' ID difficult given good looks.

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Thanks everyone. I suggested to the other birders it might be worth waiting to see what others came up with later in the day as the birds were quite distant.

I haven't seen many Snow before (make that two) but I did get up close and personal with a pair of Ross's that hung around for a few weeks last Winter so I was pretty sure I was correct.

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2 hours ago, Phalarope713 said:

prominent grin patch.

'Prominent' is a good word; I can see it without even expanding the photo.

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2 hours ago, AlexHenry said:

Some birders gonna be putting fake Ross' Goose on their life lists.....

Maybe not in this particular case - Ross's Geese are tagged so have to be confirmed (myself and one other, so far, reported Snow) so we will see.

I actually went to find the Greater White-fronted reported at the same time but it was long gone (so much for my vow not to chase after new species - twice this year so far)!!

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4 minutes ago, RobinHood said:

so much for my vow not to chase after new species

I did that only once, Aug '19 or so.  Roseate Spoonbill.  Never again; too stressful.  I bird to relax, not to compete.

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6 minutes ago, Charlie Spencer said:

I did that only once, Aug '19 or so.  Roseate Spoonbill.  Never again; too stressful.  I bird to relax, not to compete.

Absolutely agree - I was starting to get caught up in the madness (although the Northern Hawk Owl was worth a 90 minute drive).

My new rule is 30 minutes maximum and only for something really interesting. I will report back at the end of the year as to how I did.

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4 hours ago, RobinHood said:

these birds

Honestly not trying to drag this out but I just realized no-one commented on the dark one behind.

I assumed it was a juvenile (Sibley says Aug. to Jan.) about to hit adulthood but as I said I don't have much experience with Snow Geese so "sub-adult" maybe.

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5 hours ago, RobinHood said:

Honestly not trying to drag this out but I just realized no-one commented on the dark one behind.

I assumed it was a juvenile (Sibley says Aug. to Jan.) about to hit adulthood but as I said I don't have much experience with Snow Geese so "sub-adult" maybe.

Didn’t even notice that. That is also a Snow Goose, a younger dark bird as you suggest.

Dark Ross’ are rare, even in places where there are thousands of Ross’.

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