smittyone@cox.net Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 THis adult male Red-winged Blackbird was seen two days in a row last week at St. Mary's Island WMA in western Iowa. I'm not suggesting the bird is sick or injured. Just want to know why the unusual throat markings and what that type of marking is called. Partially leucistic (spelling)? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefferson Shank Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 (edited) It's probably partially leucistic. Edited April 4, 2020 by Jefferson Shank 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Spencer Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 (edited) That is one interesting bird. Maybe one of the new Red-winged x Ruby-throated hybrids? Edited April 4, 2020 by Charlie Spencer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefferson Shank Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Maybe one of the new Red-winged x Ruby-throated hybrids? Don't make me laugh! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nivalis Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 very interesting, maybe just a genetic variation, although that would be quite severe and highly unlikely, probably just partially leucistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Leukering Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 (edited) It might just be a very old female that has lost so much female hormone that it's expressing male plumage. The peach colored throat is a feature of adult female Red-wingeds. In birds, unlike in mammals such as ourselves, male is the default sex. That is, male is the homozygous sex, rather than female, which is heterozygous. That means that female hormones override the expression of male plumage characters in female birds. When those hormone levels drop below some threshold, male plumage features can begin being expressed -- that is, not overridden. However, I believe that soft-parts coloration, if they differ between the sexes (such as in Bushtit and most ducks), is not affected, as the soft parts are not replaced. Whatever the cause, that bird is COOL! Edited April 4, 2020 by Tony Leukering addition 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nivalis Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, Tony Leukering said: It might just be a very old female that has lost so much female hormone that it's expressing male plumage. The peach colored throat is a feature of adult female Red-wingeds. In birds, unlike in mammals such as ourselves, male is the default sex. That is, male is the homozygous sex, rather than female, which is heterozygous. That means that female hormones override the expression of male plumage characters in female birds. When those hormone levels drop below some threshold, male plumage features can begin being expressed -- that is, not overridden. However, I believe that soft-parts coloration, if they differ between the sexes (such as in Bushtit and most ducks), is not affected, as the soft parts are not replaced. Whatever the cause, that bird is COOL! thats a great theory Tony, I have headed of that but I totally forgot in till now, agree that the bird is awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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