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Greetings,

This photo was taken on August 8, 2017. Upon looking at the photo again many years later, I did not even notice the second raptor!

I am assuming the top bird is a Short-tailed hawk (Correct me if I'm wrong); however, the bottom one is giving me trouble. I want to say it's a dark morph short tailed, but its barred belly is giving me trouble.

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1 minute ago, Mush said:

Upon Recollection the top one might be a "Krider's" Red tailed hawk due to the lighter coloration while the bottom might just be a juvenile red-tailed.

That seems correct. The top bird isn't a Short-tailed, as the underneath of the tail would be barred, and wrong facial pattern. I'm not sure what ssp. the Bottom bird would be

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